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	<title>Comments on: The Art and Science of Whale Song</title>
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	<description>The whale dives deep. Follow it.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan James</dc:creator>
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		<description>What you say is interesting and thought provoking. 

From my experience, I wouldn&#039;t say logic is excluded, even when the will of the music takes you into the zone. Some very sophisticated thought is going on-- but it&#039;s non-verbal, non-visual, and it&#039;s synthetic rather than analytic. A lot of it is muscle-think, that&#039;s going straight into the dance on the (in my case guitar) strings, and expressive inflection (as distinct from the thought content) of the vocal. I&#039;m literally thinking the feelings, both physical and emotional, that make the music happen. 

Thinking and feeling are commonly imagined to be separate processes-- one objective, one subjective-- so &quot;thinking a feeling&quot; seems like a contradiction in terms, but I&#039;ve decided it&#039;s not true. I know what feelings in my hands/arms/body will make the next note or chord happen-- and the next, and the next-- as do you-- and the thought signals stream straight to the necessary muscles. 

We don&#039;t do it by being objectively logical; I call it being rationally subjective, for lack of a better term. And it&#039;s not just physical; when I move on to the next song, I deliberately change my emotional state accordingly. Actors do the same thing; now it&#039;s time to be happy, now it&#039;s time to be sad. . . on purpose, or in other words, logically. It&#039;s the rational way to express the meaning in the music. 

Enough for now. My thinking on this is still &quot;under development&quot;. I wonder if this has any bearing on your research, and am curious to hear anything you might have to say back to it. 
Regards, 
Alan James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say is interesting and thought provoking. </p>
<p>From my experience, I wouldn&#8217;t say logic is excluded, even when the will of the music takes you into the zone. Some very sophisticated thought is going on&#8211; but it&#8217;s non-verbal, non-visual, and it&#8217;s synthetic rather than analytic. A lot of it is muscle-think, that&#8217;s going straight into the dance on the (in my case guitar) strings, and expressive inflection (as distinct from the thought content) of the vocal. I&#8217;m literally thinking the feelings, both physical and emotional, that make the music happen. </p>
<p>Thinking and feeling are commonly imagined to be separate processes&#8211; one objective, one subjective&#8211; so &#8220;thinking a feeling&#8221; seems like a contradiction in terms, but I&#8217;ve decided it&#8217;s not true. I know what feelings in my hands/arms/body will make the next note or chord happen&#8211; and the next, and the next&#8211; as do you&#8211; and the thought signals stream straight to the necessary muscles. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t do it by being objectively logical; I call it being rationally subjective, for lack of a better term. And it&#8217;s not just physical; when I move on to the next song, I deliberately change my emotional state accordingly. Actors do the same thing; now it&#8217;s time to be happy, now it&#8217;s time to be sad. . . on purpose, or in other words, logically. It&#8217;s the rational way to express the meaning in the music. </p>
<p>Enough for now. My thinking on this is still &#8220;under development&#8221;. I wonder if this has any bearing on your research, and am curious to hear anything you might have to say back to it.<br />
Regards,<br />
Alan James</p>
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